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More math news March 25, 2010

Posted by Noah Snyder in math life.
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In more parochial math news, my alma mater has hired Sophie Morel. This means that after 374 years we finally have a woman as a full professor. I don’t believe in congratulating a school for doing something that’s at least 75 years overdue (I hear that Emmy Noether was on the market in 1933), but as an alum I’m certainly relieved that this is no longer a continued source of embarrassment. This is just the first step, and I look forward to the day when Harvard has at least two women on faculty, like both of the other institutions I’ve been affiliated with.

Speaking of Prof. Morel, her advisor Gerard Laumon has quite the string of superstar students. Anyone know what the current record is for who has the most students with Fields medals?

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1. Johan - March 25, 2010

I think the record is two, held by Zariski (Hironaka and Mumford), Bott (Smale and Quillen) and Stein (Fefferman and Tao). Maybe Laumon will soon join the club?

-ed. This comment was stuck in moderation which explains why later comments have the same info

2. Felipe Voloch - March 25, 2010

Quillen and Smale were both students of Bott. This used to be the record but I haven’t double checked that it still is.

3. Noah Snyder - March 25, 2010

Fefferman and Tao were both students of Stein.

4. ano - March 25, 2010

Henri Cartan has Serre and Thom.

5. ano - March 25, 2010

and interestingly, Serre and Thom graduated the same year… 1951

6. rjlipton - March 25, 2010

Look at mine or other posts on Ada Lovelace Day.

7. ano - March 25, 2010

Hironaka and Mumford are students of Zariski

8. Noah Snyder - March 25, 2010

@rjlipton, Actually the “two women” in the post is a link to your blog post. I’m a big fan of your blog by the way.

9. ano - March 25, 2010

also it’s interesting to note that Fields Medalists’s students never won Fields Medal (correct me if I’m wrong), but there are quite several (at least 3, like Henri Cartan & Serre, Chern & Yau, Zariski&Mumford) examples of Wolf advisor and Wolf student….

10. Ben Webster - March 25, 2010

It’s entirely possible that advising well and doing good work later in one’s career are correlated somehow.

In those examples though, H. Cartan and Zariski were only eligible for one cycle of Fields and Chern for two, so it’s not so surprising they missed out.

11. anonymous - March 25, 2010

@8: Donaldson was a student of Atiyah.

12. Noah Snyder - March 25, 2010

Deligne was a student of Grothendieck.

13. egan - March 25, 2010

>>>Deligne was a student of Grothendieck.

Well it depends of the meaning of “student”.
If it’s doing a PhD with Grothendieck then it’s false.
If it’s study under Grothendieck then it’s true.

14. Ryan - March 25, 2010

I think you should add Manin as he advised Drinfeld and effectively advised Kontsevich (with Zagier).

15. Noah Snyder - March 25, 2010

@egan I just go with with what the genealogy page tells me.

16. tocki - March 25, 2010

it’s interesting to note that Fields Medalists’s students never won Fields Medal (correct me if I’m wrong)

You are wrong:

Laurent Schwartz (Fields medal 1950) was the advisor of Alexandre Grothendieck (Fields medal 1966) who was the advisor of Pierre Deligne (Fields medal 1978).

17. Anonymous - March 25, 2010

@egan: If what you say is right, then who *was* Deligne’s (official) Ph.D. supervisor?

18. egan - March 26, 2010

@Noah Snyder and @Anonymous

OK I checked and I was wrong. Sorry about that.

19. Deane - March 28, 2010

When I was a graduate student at Harvard in the early 80′s, they tried to hire Karen Uhlenbeck. She spent a year visiting and then turned down the offer.

20. G. Edgar - March 31, 2010

Is it in poor taste to point out that the spelling “alma matter” is not what you intended? Who knows, maybe physics already used the term “alma matter” for something.

21. Ben Webster - March 31, 2010

There’s a Morrisey song called “Alma Matters.”

22. Kea - March 31, 2010

You look forward to the day when there are only two? Wow, yeah. Meanwhile, I’ll just get back to starving to death, like so many other unemployed STEM women that I know …

23. John Armstrong - March 31, 2010

Wow, Kea.. thank goodness I’m an unemployed STEM man, and thus magically won’t starve to death.

24. Noah Snyder - March 31, 2010

@Kea. The point I was trying to make was that one should hope for and expect further progress rather than being self-congratulatory about single exceptions. Hence I wrote “at least” rather than “only.” Also, I’d just read rjlipton’s post on the “rule of two” and it seemed relevant so I wanted to work in a link to it. I’m not sure what your misreading it as “only” is meant to add.

Of course no matter who Harvard hires it’s not substantially going to affect whether you, John, I, or anyone else gets jobs or ends up unemployed. It’s a small department and one that doesn’t consider hiring people who don’t already have jobs elsewhere.

@John. I don’t think that’s a productive comment and I seriously considered deleting it.

25. John Armstrong - March 31, 2010

Sorry, Noah, I shouldn’t have responded to snark with snark.

Yes, the employment situation for female academics in STEM fields is a problem. But it sucks all around, not just for the women. Why are we quibbling over how many of the few existing positions go to whom, and not over expanding the pool overall?

26. Ben Webster - April 1, 2010

Why are we quibbling over how many of the few existing positions go to whom, and not over expanding the pool overall?

Um, because mathematicians have a lot of influence over who gets existing positions, and much less over whether to expand the pool overall.

27. Daniel Moskovich - April 1, 2010

There is some mixing of global political considerations with discussion of individual hires. Sophie Morel seems clearly a good hire (regardless of gender politics), and I think Kea and John would also be great hires (having some limited familiarity with the work of both), and I’m surprised to hear you’re still unemployed. I hope you both get good jobs soon.


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